But I would add them only after planting this trio. I will be planting your suggested trio this spring. As Adrian alluded to above, Hass and Reed are A types while Fuerte is a B type, which makes cross-pollination all the more likely, enhancing fruit set. About the winter/spring varieties that you mentioned: I dont know how much heat Wurtz can handle. Nice work! Also someone mentioned tree size and I think I have seen better luck with fresh smaller trees since they were not sitting in pots too long. Yes, you can definitely graft several varieties onto one tree. Dig a hole twice as large as the tree's root system, carefully plant the tree and cover the roots. If your Reed is on Dusa and its doing well so far, then I would get those other trees on Dusa too. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. They will never let you down or change their form. You have me sold on the year-round Hass prospect. Elizabeth. For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. During the big freeze a few years ago, the temp got so low that it killed a lot of local avocados. LOL! I saw that you have a Gwen and was curious what your take is on that. We may have an improved Fuerte. That day gave me a chance to compare the heat tolerance of multiple varieties: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. Im glad you found your Reed there! In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. https://ucanr.edu/sites/alternativefruits/files/121265.pdf So, I found an avocado variety calendar, on gregalder.com, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_20170831_071354-1-e1504273347755.jpg, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WP_20160104_09_07_06_Pro.jpg, but I am still struggling and have no idea what second variety would be the best choice. I have Lamb, Pinkerton, Reed, Mexicola Grande, Hass, Holiday and Ettinger. Thanks for the input, and its really along the lines that I was looking down. I dont know of any other commercial avocado grove with many Sharwils, unfortunately. At least I think it is a Reed, they said it was and it definitely looks like one from all the pictures. The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. Maybe I shouldnt have put Reed in that list, but Reed isnt as vigorous as some other varieties such as Bacon, Fuerte, or Hass. The flesh is very oily, rich and creamy tasting. (GEMs harvest season is basically spring into summer.) Reed is basically a summer-into-fall variety. Fertilize every few months with a well-balanced citrus and avocado plant food. Hello Greg from Cyprus in Europe! 7 years ago. Maybe you would say Reed or Fuerte to graft instead of Lamb? So you dont want to prevent the drop of fruitlets if the set is heavy. We will also compliment with other varieties to have ripe fruit all year, (varieties including malama, yamagata, ota, murashiga, kahaluu, fujikawa), for value added products. June of this year I topped them at 8 feet, The Gem is still at 8 feet but the other two want to grow to the moon. Seemed very mature, almost overmature, as the seed had germinated and the root was touching the peel on the bottom, and the seedcoat did not adhere to the seed. But at least it was grown in Southern California. You might try leaching the chlorine out of the soil by giving it a long watering with regular water. Some percentage of fruitlet drop always happens, due to incomplete pollination and other unknown factors. Hard to say. Theyre hard to find these days. Our greenhouse has 14ft ceilings. I have records of the bloom seasons of all of my trees, and Id be happy to share about specific varieties. A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. If you live in a cooler area I think it calls for some adjusting. You are going to be in avocado heaven soon. Theyre for my parents and theyre concerned about consuming yield from two trees, but maybe after a few years, theyll be up for another! SUPPORTERS (we thank you! 3 Advertisements West Indian (Persea americana Mill. As good as some other avocados are, nothing pleases me quite as much as eating a high quality Fuerte. Historic photo of Mr. and Mrs. Rudolph Hass in front of an avocado tree Sorry to hear about the decline of such a wonderful tree. Avocado oils are high in monounsaturated fats, which are beneficial for your heart and skin. This variety is productive in both coastal and inland areas. Avocados have been grown in neighboring Spain for a very long time, and I know there are nurseries there. So I could eat Fuerte starting in the late fall, then switch to Hass in the spring, and pick Reeds from the summer until almost when the next crop of Fuerte is ready. Sometimes the selection and quality is terrible, but sometimes its excellent. Ive never had a tree-matured Reed. I have learned so much from your website, Thank You. ), If I had to choose a pair for your location, I think Id try the combination of Pinkerton and Gwen or Reed. I went to Fallbrook and paid Eli a visit, and I came back with a Reed, a Sirprize, and a GEM. I do know MacArthur avocados. Ive been looking at farmers markets in San Diego, no luck so far. My Gwen is only a couple years old now so I hesitate to say a lot about it since my firsthand knowledge is limited at this point. I also checked on a huge old Nabal in OB that I used to eat from, and I was pleased to find that the tree is now doing better than last year. Small fruit will be used for value added product. How does your Reed do through Sylmar summers? They call it Standard or 4 mulch. Hi Greg, I will be planting two avocado trees in the spring. Taste Ive read is great. Is that the same down South? 2. Wish Id read something like this a few years ago. Buddy, youre the best. Isnt Sharwil a vigorous variety! See this article about mulches and controlling root rot in avocados: http://www.avocadosource.com/WAC5/Papers/WAC5_p561.pdf. Choquette Avocados. But a couple are right on the cusp of that top tier. Linda Greg, Griswold in a 1945 article titled, The Hass Avocado. This was written when the green Fuerte was king of a young California avocado industry. Should I go which two Dusas (Hass+Dusa, Reed+Dusa)? If they dont get a good start to life, they usually struggle forever. Thanks for the update. This will help me determine where i will plant it. My son, who ate it with me, called it the bestest avocado ever. (Though only a kindergartener, he has eaten his share of avocado varieties and actually has an opinion worth listening to!). Better now than never. Hello- Love your site- what a treasure trove! But for others like Hass and Reed and Sharwil, to take the ones you mentioned, they just taste like awesome avocados. So keep that in mind. And the sharwil does not have the nutty notes like the hass. All of this is very complicated, but very inspiring!!!! I hesitate to even talk about the taste of Kahaluu since Ive only eaten one. One last thing. I dont think it is possible to attach files to the commentaries ongregalder.com, so I will send you pictures by email. Required fields are marked *. I just cant say for sure. If you want to know how to kill an avocado tree, ask me Ive done it all. The grove manager said he prefers Hass at no closer than 12 feet. Thank you for your wonderful blog! But keep this in mind: each of these three varieties is capable of producing a hundred avocados on a tree thats less than 15-feet tall even if its not close to an opposite-type tree. For commercial purposes the fruits are picked while unripe and ripened after harvesting. The fruit fly is not a threat to the green hard skin of the sharwil. It is simply an awesome fruit. All I can say is wow! In fact nowadays growing mangos and bananas is becoming more common here whereas just a decade ago an avocado tree put you on the cutting edge of growing. The main reason Id choose Reed is that its harvest season complements the Hass. If I eat some Fuerte fruit blindfolded, its so easy to identify it as Fuerte. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. I would call them and see about buying trees from them if you have trouble locating trees elsewhere. Fuerte, My question is how do you recommend getting rid of the persea mite? Kona Sharwil Avocado 2.0 - The Re-DO - Avocado Talk 1,184 views Feb 6, 2022 50 Dislike Share ReEngineeredMemories 582 subscribers Finally got the Kona in the ground as of today 2/6/22.. See his website for details: https://www.elisfarms.com/farmers-markets. Found some 5gals at Atkins in Fallbrook. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. As an aside, I recently spent a long weekend in Ramona, beautiful area. In fact I find that Pinkerton here is actually better than down South and in fact better than Hass. Unfortunately, they do not have a webshop, but I was able to call them, and they spoke both French and English. Would you recommend Carmen Hass and GEM? I wrote this post with someone just like you in mind. They have plenty of space, but Im leaning towards the GEM, since its so easy to get a hold of Hass at the markets. Still, what most people prefer to do is plant multiple trees close together, even in one hole. 1 year old Reed on unknown seedling I have a hilly area for my trees and its not practical for ladders, so Im looking to plant avocado trees that are easier to pick, great tasting, high yielding and can hang for some time on the tree (ideally). If I didnt feel the need for lots of space, I would, no doubt. Its super helpful for us newbies . Reed also stays green when its ripe. Thanks for all of these wonderful updates. The challenge is that many of them have similar harvest seasons, which are spring into summer: Hass, Sharwil, GEM, Gwen. Thank you for all the great information! Florida avocados, for one, have less fat; one cup of the fruit has 23 grams of fat compared to a Hass avocado's 35 grams. If you ever go wine tasting up here, the huge Puebla and another large tree which sounded like a Zutano but it could be some other old variety they are at Farella Vineyard in Napa. Still, taste is subjective and theres no accuracy in saying any one variety is the best tasting to anyone but yourself. Four different varieties which were doing very well. I cant speak from personal experience about my own Sharwil trees because theyre too young, so this guess is based on what Ive seen in others Sharwil trees in Southern California. I found one at a small nursery in south county and planted it in between the 2 existing trees. In fact, it is precisely the microbes in there doing their work that produce the enzyme called cellulase which is said to fight the pathogenic fungus that causes root rot disease in avocados (Phytophthora cinnamomi). Theyre similar to Reed in both taste and appearance (round and green skin), except that the Nabals I know have a thicker, shell-like skin. Heavy clay is the worst for Hass avocado trees, but if you have no other choice, create a raised bed or a mound with a 3-5 foot diameter to plant the tree on. Anyway, Id focus on A types, and with the 14-foot ceiling you could prune any variety to keep its size in check or go with a naturally smaller variety such as Gwen, GEM, Pinkerton, Lamb, or even Reed (these will all ultimately get taller than 14 feet, but not as soon). Sharwil Avocados from Hawaii. I am a bit lost. Fruit may have a larger seed when grown in rainy areas. Good problems. Mateo. Started producing at 3? Actually, I have tasted someone elses Kahaluu fruit that was grown in California so I can use that for reference in comparing to the others. I have downscaled a bit.and now I have just 20 trees and 16 varieties. All avocado varieties need roughly the same care. In the Southern Hemisphere, I would arrange them with Reed toward the equator (on the north end) since it is slightly less vigorous and it will get extra sun in fall-winter-spring, Fuerte in the middle since it has a B-type flower and will enhance the fruitfulness of the adjacent A types, and Hass on the south end. They are located in Fallbrook, and possibly in 2020 theyll start selling Sharwils. I am jealous you are growing all those Hawaiian varieties and am interested in what you have to say about taste once that time comes and how the trees are doing. Contemplated stopping by Fallbrook and talking to a grower, but returning on Sunday meant I was a bit eager to get home. Its very disrespectful when people put such videos on YouTube or otherwise share such information online. We anticipate that Sharwil avocado consignments from Hawaii to the mainland will total about 180 metric tons per year, equivalent to about one-half of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of non-Hass avocados and to less than one-twentieth of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of all avocado varieties. Reed, 4. I havent seen you comment on Sirprize. We also have a Cate Macadamia tree in the backyard which is doing excellent. Thanks for your feedback. I actually removed my small Fuerte to grow thie Lamorinda because my backyard is tiny and with 5 other avos in the ground I already have more than enough on my plate. In my yard, Reeds start to taste good as early as May, and can go through September. Its single disadvantage is its black color, which has been associated in the minds of the public with poor quality fruits, wrote, Then why isnt Fuerte my top choice? Read more here: http://www.avocadosource.com/CAS_Yearbooks/CAS_72_1988/CAS_1988_PG_195-207.pdf. Thought you and others might be interested in knowing that Gwen avocados are currently available at Elis Farmstand in Fallbrook. Thank again for your help. I have been meaning to publish a post on avocado rootstocks for a year or two now. It has excellent flavor with two distinct crops a year. Is there another tree of comparable size that complements the GEM in season that could happily share this space? Recently I moved to the cusp of Zones 9a and 9b. Thats a fun project. I also dont know anything about growing avocados in France, but Ill do my best to help you get started. I say sad because avocados must be the easiest trees on the planet to prune. Thanks. (Alternatively, if I had a neighbor with a Hass or a vendor at a farmers market who sold good Hass, then I could plant a Reed as my only tree.). The big difference: these avocados have significantly less fat. And, green gold, very prolific, and a good pollinator. Its significantly bigger than Hass, as seen in the photo above, andReed also stays green when its ripe. Fruits are of high market quality due to its exceptional flavor, high oil content and small seed. I have a Hass that is a few years old from Durling Nursery. They seem to be especially common on trees in your neighborhood. Watering. If we are successful. I know Sunland, and I can empathize with how you and your avocados feel. I saw his GEMs on Toro Canyon and they looked perfect and vigorous. 1. The Hass Avocado. The problem with Fuerte is that it tends to grow horizontally so youd have to be vigilant about training it up a stake and pruning as necessary. About five years ago it started to get bad infestations of mites, it then started to get cancors on the large branches and trunk that had a white powder around the edges. 1 year old Bacon on Zutano seedling My Reed and Lamb trees held onto so much fruit that I later had to remove some by hand in order to prevent branches from breaking. What would be smarter choice? Bacon, I named the tree Lamorinda after the area it is grown which is name referring to the 3 cities of Lafayette, Moraga and Orinda. I know thats not down the street, but . It may have something to do with the Gwen tree being a bit wimpy during extreme weather compared to some other avocado varieties. Thanks! So if possible, I would also add a third tree of a B-type flower and keep it small and use it just for the flowers (strip all or most of its fruit each year). They grow and mature on the tree, but they only ripen (soften) after being picked, after their stem is severed. When your Hass avocado tree is newly planted, it will need to be watered every two to three days. Thank you so much. This is how your year in avocados could look. June of 2018 The state dealt in the Sharwil variety of avocado, which some say is superior in taste and texture and yields more flesh. The only varieties that I would avoid for the use of shade are Holiday, Wertz, Stewart, Gwen, and Lamb. . Thank you and thank you for all the information you have shared on your site!! I grafted some Sharwils here and there in the spring, and theyve grown more than any other variety I grafted this year (including Fuerte, which people often talk of as being so vigorous). Wrapping the trees creates an oven. Years ago when I started planting it was hard to find out what to grow up here. I was trying to think of any varieties that cant be kept to 10-12 feet tall, but Im at a loss. Note that Im really tentative about saying this. I have a space there where its convenient for them to dump. Terrific! When you talk to them they are totally clueless. https://ibb.co/4jnDhXv Can you please tell me which avocado orchard you visited in California? Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. Ive found a Gem and a Carmen Hass semi-locally and am torn about which to plant! Sir-Prize is a very good avocado but I dont think its quite as good as those three, especially for your situation since its harvest season is only a little before Hass and overlapping with Hass. Obviously the tree would look very weird, but would likely be weak or want to fall to one side or maybe the vigorous variety would pull more nutrients and starve the less vigorous variety. About 8 miles inland in Southern Sonoma County. Im glad youre happy with your Zutano. Im inclined to just replant everything because I dont find that damaged young trees recover very well. I also gave some wood to others up here who are much better at grafting in case the tree disappears. Compared to Hass, its harvest season isnt quite as long. I would love to grow one or graft a branch onto a tree I have after researching about how great the fruit tastes. In your climate, dangerous heat in spring and early summer just doesnt happen. So if youre toward that side of Temecula, you might get Sharwils to hang on the tree a long time compared to the eastern side of Temecula. Perhaps the Lamorinda has the answer? Reed Avocado Greengold Avocado. Warm regards, Wonder what that was all about. Asking them to prune 3X a year I think is questionable. These are the first trees I have had success with and just dont want to mess things up. The Hass Avocado is large and symmetrical in shape with black skin when ripe: Fruit Ripens: February to October. Before I get to that, do know that if you live within a mile or two of the beach in Carlsbad, you can get nearly year-round fruit from a Hass tree because of the mild summer temperatures: by the time one seasons fruit is overmature and tasting too oily, its almost time to pick the next seasons fruit. It could be something I acquired from eating Fuertes as a kid, I dont know. Or consider 'Lamb Hass,' a similar-size tree, hardy to 26 degrees, bearing 10- to 18-ounce Hass . Once you exclude the fiber, a whole avocado is simply 2.6 grams of net carbs. I could do that! Will do. The fruit is the 'Hass' type, with a pebbly green skin that ripens off the tree to nearly black. The Hass has a lot on it and both the other trees have some as well. As your commenter mentioned above, this list might not be optimal for those of us in slightly cooler areas. There are a lot of factors that go into the long term performance of a tree, but all other things being equal (health of tree, scion variety, rootstock, care), I also see no theoretical reason that a younger tree would somehow jump ahead of an older tree. Thank you for your response and info. Temecula gardener here. H.B. But the distinctive smooth texture and nutty yellow flesh of a perfect Fuerte is so appealing to me that I dont even want to adulterate it as guacamole. Im planning on planting a Reed. My experience with Sharwil in my own yard and my observations of other Sharwils confirm that its not the most predictable bearer, unfortunately. Im torn though We have a small space with good sunlight and drainage in our yard that is probably 12 x 12 for this tree. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. Yet Pinkerton, Mexicola, Bacon, Jim Lamb, Wurtz and Reed do well here. Thanks a lot for contributing this. Also my grandfather said growing up in Los Angeles they had Mcarthur avocados, Have you ever heard of them? Carmen Hass is similar to Hass Avocado but smaller 6-14 oz fruit. Tree 2: This one has been tough to pin down, and I have come up with a few options based on my research. This high quality, black-skinned avocado is up to 25% larger than its parent, Mexicola. Ill be visiting a mature high-density planting in a couple weeks and Ill pass along anything new that I observe, but the main long-term challenge for most growers with this style is keeping on top of the pruning. Mexicola is the oiliest variety that I have tasted but its a bit too intense for me, and I wouldnt say its one of my favorites. In that case, the tree needs to be kept cool and hydrated as far as possible. I was surprised this past weekend that I found the Lowes in La Mirada had 10 Reeds in 5 gallon containers. Kona Sharwil.wow! Zutano, The fruit is tasty, but not that tasty. 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