Also try not to limp shoulder the weapon. Factory last round bolt hold open. In the same area is the bolt release. Gifts sure. The mold would have to be changed. I live in the shotgun only part of Michigan, and Ive been using a saiga with an eotech for the last two years. I started out with a 12 round magazine of #8 birdshot, remington low brass. Its a shotgun, anything more than a brass bead and youre over thinking your shot. The CD, Superformance, and Zombie loads are all the same shit with different hulls. The problem with shotguns is that the ammunition is huge and awkward. An unusual feature among firearms in the Kalashnikov family, the Vepr-12 sports a last round bolt hold-open mechanism. The first, and tightest, was Federal's LE 12700 that showed the sights were regulated low and right, which was quickly corrected without tools on the adjustable tangent rear. Dew out of the air after it was fired by my can cannon, so I really need this resolved because I have serious uses for it like shooting two cans of dewy from the sky. Yeah I forgot about that, But they also make a new 3" magnum load which I would like to try out for HD. A Saiga that runs well coupled with a 10-rd drum is a solution to many questions. Ive seen them at atlantic firearms and classic firearms for $999. We take the VEPR 12 Shotgun out for a spin on the range. All were low brass including Winchester Super Target, Federal Game Loads, and Remington Game Loads. For practical terms, look for loads that are either at least 1 1/8 oz (32 gram) of shot moving 1200 FPS or faster (3 dr eq). The gun suffers from the same parallax issues that the Saiga had, since the sights are over an inch above the top of the barrel, and if youre spending this kind of money on a dedicated trap or skeet gun there are much better suited choices out there. I manually cycled my action over 500 times before ever shooting it and ran 100 slugs through it in an attempt to mechanically "polish" the rails and machined parts in the receiver. Even a brass bead is over thinking it in my book. That and my EAA Match 10mm. In case you look for improvement and tuning of your rifle i warmly suggest to consider this option. The Only Time the tab is visible is when the bolt is locked back. Vepr 12 Problems, Turn to the Internet Posted on August 25, 2013by shootip5 Vepr 12 Problems, The Internet is my Only Hope: So I start Googling "Vepr 12" , "Vepr 12 problems" and I come across www.Vepr.orgmessage board. Inconsistencies of the factory VEPR 12 & SAIGA 12 Guide Rod/Recoil Assembly are well known. He might learn something. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. How much does a shotgun with that thing on it weigh, fully loaded? The empty hull gets stuck halfway being pulled out, stovepipes basically. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I would do it again and again for the results that I got. Bring the price down around $800 and well talk. I swapped the furniture on my VEPR 12 (slant cut, thumbhole stock) and ever since then I've had some issues with trigger reset. Based on the RPK standard, the Vepr 12 shares the same legendary . In the meantime Im giving it one more star than I gave the Saiga-12. I've been running low brass with no problems (of course I did swap the trigger because the factory one was unreliable for me and I also polished the bolt face and the hammer), just stay within these ammo specs: http://doitdarith.com/temp/vepr12/wolfammo12gaugevepr12.html. A jury would look at it and think I borrowed it from grandpa. Just saying. Ive always had great luck with people trying to help each other out. Saiga-12.com Corporation I had some problems with the SGM Tac. Makes sense that the cycling of the action might be a bit rough and too tight to cycle low velocity rounds. The "flexing" and binding of the captured OEM assemblies can rob your system of the efficiency needed to cycle the gun properly. It jammed every time. To do this, simply remove the dust cover and the recoil spring assembly so that you have access to the tang. Pasted as rich text. Ive gone up and down and read all these idiotic comments on how the muzzle brake wont do anythingmy god, people on here are retards. Of course I am a tooth expert and not an expert on guns. The Winchester would not cycle the shotgun at all. With all of this said, I realize that there can be many reasons why a gun will not run as advertised. You didnt give it a fair test! To which I reply that guns are tested in factory condition, and a gun that needs to be fixed before you can actually use it is a pretty piss poor gun. The Vepr-12 lacks the standard AK side mounting rail, instead using a Picatinny rail incorporated into the dust cover for optic mounting. It has a collapsible Colt M4-style Magpul sliding stock. I don't know about VEPRsbut my S12 won't cycle if you don't have it firmly shouldered. Even then some just do not like light loads. They need some help with smoothing and polishing parts inside and such. Pants are optional. Ive seen some of the video and it looks like Vepr-12 doesnt like some optics on its top rail. You can post now and register later. I headed out to the range after re-installing everything and took three boxes of shells with me. so im not sure if this is an actual problem or not as this (v12) is my first ak platform weapon of any kind. The bolt release tab then protrudes out indicating you have a locked colt. If you want a flimsy plastic lightweight mag, the AR-15 awaits. The Vepr 12 shotgun is a hefty piece of machinery. Like all firearms with the Vepr designation, the Vepr-12 receiver is patterned after that of the RPK light machine gun. Ive done similar things on my reviews. Magazine: Removable box 5 rounds (8 ,10 ,12, and 25 round magazines available) The Russian VEPR 12 semi . I took a look at my Vepr 12 and I cannot see any differences between yours and mine. the issue has been had with numerous #6 shot and also random target loads, all 2 3/4"slugs and 00buck run flawlessly. Why arent top 3 gun shooters using it? Had some MD 20 round drums and standard factory 5 rounds. u got stick out to them, no judge would give them cort order because they think your guns not complant If you can get a few pictures I can at least compare with my Vepr 12. The first Saiga I bought did not have any problems at all, it's a matter of Quality Control at the factory. I'm wondering if this isn't a trigger issue. I keep my nose clean when 922R is concerned. Like having a pistol that shoots .22, 9mm, .40, .45, and .357 magnum interchangeably. Then came the check the gas block and ports. The first 3 rounds cycled well, but then on the 4th, jams started happening. [Get your minds out of the gutter], Theres an issue with aiming this gun, thanks to the parallax resulting from the sights being an inch above the top of the barrel. The follower is a bit rough in my sgm but unfortunately the fte problem happens with the factory 5 rounder also. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Instead of the standard AK safety selector, some Vepr-12 shotguns have an ambidextrous safety that can be manipulated from either side of the receiver. Overall the VEPR-12 is a dramatic improvement over the Saiga. The gun will fire, cycle, eject, and feed a new round, but the trigger reset for the second round doesnt seem to be happening. I had new in box Saigas with crooked gas ports and not enough gas ports. Russian VEPR 12 gauge Shotgun 1,693 views Nov 3, 2021 49 Dislike Share WeaponsJunkie 872 subscribers Perfect home Defense Russian beauty. Why is that? best point this is ohio man was open carry a gun wich is leagle police detain him with out cause orther then the gun they found he can sue the state and police. Display as a link instead, I'll bring out different brands of ammo as well. Your link has been automatically embedded. This video shows a good tutorial on how to break the Vepr apart. the gas piston threaded into the bolt carrier has a little play in it side to side where it actually threads into the bolt carrier. I have a few 10 round stick mags and a 20 round drum. You left out a very important feature of the bolt-release button on the VEPR-12, which acts like the bolt release on an AR-15. I just dont get that feeling of reliability like I do with the others. This did nothing either. Is that normal? Its better than the Saiga-12, but the safety is an issue for me and the gun feels like it has very sharp edges and rough machining. You simply cant hold the shortcomings of the Saiga against the VEPR. Then of course the possibility of violating firearms laws in a different state. Saiga-12.com Corporation It sure has hell seems like a lot of people commenting on here have never even handled a Vepr 12. Alternate 00 buck with slugs and rock and roll the big apes. If youre thinking about home defense, thats probably the best application I could think of for the gun. So I suppose you ran your 3 gun AR bone stock with zero modifications then. Or alternatively, if the velocity is down, the weight has to go up. Thats a piss poor reason to buy a gun but some how it came home with me anyway. Full VEPR 12 walk through, ammo test and review. To facilitate rapid reloading of the shotgun, a bolt release lever is located inside the trigger guard, allowing the user to release the bolt without breaking grip.[2]. Are there otherwise drum magazines to this weapon? Winchester Military Grade Buckshot. I tried one yesterday, and again today, and I shot some old Winchester light target loads that are rated 2 3/4 drams with 1 1/8 oz loads. Cost the same as a base model AR or AK does. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Paste as plain text instead, Friend lose things. Instead of being a straight AK-style safety, Molot has added a flap that extends down near the pistol grip with the idea that you can then use your trigger finger to manipulate the safety. Let me know if theres anything else that would help. Its pretty much always the same malfunction. Due to the large difference in size between the 7.6239mm cartridge and 12-gauge shells, the extractor port has been lengthened, allowing the shotgun to eject spent shells without risk of causing a stovepipe malfunction. This is the most obviously biased and uninformed review Ive ever read on this site. If youre running in open division then this is definitely an option, but consider that for the same price you can have a Mossberg 930 with an XRAIL and have 22 rounds at your disposal before needing to reload, and still have a normal shotgun in every other way.